Comments on: The Elephant in the Room http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:44:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: I see the Producers of The Streamy Awards are wedding DJ’s now | The Jace Hall Show http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18256 I see the Producers of The Streamy Awards are wedding DJ’s now | The Jace Hall Show Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:36:21 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18256 [...] is some politic’n going on between the Streamy’s and the IAWTV.  I think the wonderful Casey Mckinnon breaks it down nicely on her blog.  Check it out and let me know what you think. – Todd [...]

]]> By: Casey http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18220 Casey Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:48:13 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18220 @milowent: Usually I'd ask for a link back to the post, but it was a split second so it's cool. What a creative retort! Well done!! @milowent: Usually I’d ask for a link back to the post, but it was a split second so it’s cool. What a creative retort! Well done!!

]]> By: milowent http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18209 milowent Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:56:33 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18209 i took a screenshot of your post, i hope that's okay :-) http://bit.ly/bmtWZ8 i took a screenshot of your post, i hope that’s okay :-)

http://bit.ly/bmtWZ8

]]> By: Casey http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18199 Casey Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:53:24 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18199 @Eric: To be fair, though, Tubefilter did take all that time building the Streamys brand and establishing the IAWTV as a real academy with voting guidelines and everything. It's true that they need to be more transparent, but I really think this could be a wake up call for them. I just posted a new blog post about this here: http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/27/moving-on/ @Eric: To be fair, though, Tubefilter did take all that time building the Streamys brand and establishing the IAWTV as a real academy with voting guidelines and everything. It’s true that they need to be more transparent, but I really think this could be a wake up call for them. I just posted a new blog post about this here: http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/27/moving-on/

]]> By: eric susch http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18198 eric susch Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:48:31 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18198 Tubefilter shouldn't have any control over producing the streamy awards. It's a conflict of interest plain and simple. If tubefilter wants to have awards they should call it the tubefilter awards, have the editors pick the winners, and be done with it. When I went to the IAWTV meeting in NY last November I was under the impression that the IAWTV was running the streamys. A major selling point of that membership drive meeting was that the IAWTV was not for profit. Michael Wayne mentioned it like nine times in the presentation, implying that the awards were above reproach. Now we find out that a separate for-profit company runs the awards? FAIL And if the streamy awards are for profit why is the official website streamys.ORG? There are so many disingenuous little things like this. It's troubling. PS Way to steal the look and feel of the Obama campaign for the "Rebuild the Trust" website. Tubefilter shouldn’t have any control over producing the streamy awards. It’s a conflict of interest plain and simple. If tubefilter wants to have awards they should call it the tubefilter awards, have the editors pick the winners, and be done with it.

When I went to the IAWTV meeting in NY last November I was under the impression that the IAWTV was running the streamys. A major selling point of that membership drive meeting was that the IAWTV was not for profit. Michael Wayne mentioned it like nine times in the presentation, implying that the awards were above reproach. Now we find out that a separate for-profit company runs the awards? FAIL

And if the streamy awards are for profit why is the official website streamys.ORG? There are so many disingenuous little things like this. It’s troubling.

PS Way to steal the look and feel of the Obama campaign for the “Rebuild the Trust” website.

]]> By: Casey McKinnon - Moving on… http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18197 Casey McKinnon - Moving on… Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:35:07 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18197 [...] the past few months there’s been a lot of bullshit surrounding the Streamys and yesterday’s blog post just reflected that I can’t take any more of it. You know the expression “Fool me once, [...] [...] the past few months there’s been a lot of bullshit surrounding the Streamys and yesterday’s blog post just reflected that I can’t take any more of it. You know the expression “Fool me once, [...]

]]> By: Casey http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18187 Casey Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:17:31 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18187 @GrrAargh: I think the name IS reparable, but we need time to do that... and the IAWTV should oversee the Streamys next year (and probably every year) just to make sure the script and content represent the organization and its' community properly. To be truthful, there are A LOT of people out there who don't know about web series and have never heard of the Streamys, so though this has set the name back... all press can be good press anyways. There have been mistakes made on both sides (Tubefilter and the IAWTV), but sometimes we just have to sit back and learn from them. Thanks for your comments, I always enjoy hearing from you! :) @GrrAargh: I think the name IS reparable, but we need time to do that… and the IAWTV should oversee the Streamys next year (and probably every year) just to make sure the script and content represent the organization and its’ community properly. To be truthful, there are A LOT of people out there who don’t know about web series and have never heard of the Streamys, so though this has set the name back… all press can be good press anyways. There have been mistakes made on both sides (Tubefilter and the IAWTV), but sometimes we just have to sit back and learn from them. Thanks for your comments, I always enjoy hearing from you! :)

]]> By: GrrAargh (Phil Waters) http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18161 GrrAargh (Phil Waters) Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:27:05 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18161 Oops, completely wrong on my last point! Thing is last night I knew that. Blame not being fully awake yet. A lesson for all people posting comments. Oops, completely wrong on my last point! Thing is last night I knew that. Blame not being fully awake yet. A lesson for all people posting comments.

]]> By: GrrAargh (Phil Waters) http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18159 GrrAargh (Phil Waters) Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:08:34 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18159 Casey, as you know my initial response wasn't 'this will sort things out', and as I've read other blogs and comments that certainly seems to be the case. The manifesto is built upon a mass of assumptions, the main one that gives me concern is point 4. I'm not even sure that the Streamys name should continue, tarnished as it is, let alone that there should be a permanent agreement. The other,admittedly small point, is that the Tubefilter 'Truth' post was by 'Guest Author'-very open and truthful! Casey, as you know my initial response wasn’t ‘this will sort things out’, and as I’ve read other blogs and comments that certainly seems to be the case. The manifesto is built upon a mass of assumptions, the main one that gives me concern is point 4. I’m not even sure that the Streamys name should continue, tarnished as it is, let alone that there should be a permanent agreement. The other,admittedly small point, is that the Tubefilter ‘Truth’ post was by ‘Guest Author’-very open and truthful!

]]> By: Casey http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/personal/2010/04/26/the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-18140 Casey Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:59:47 +0000 http://www.caseymckinnon.com/?p=889#comment-18140 @Chris: Good point, but I'm not sure the leadership of the IAWTV should decide their position... I have more faith in the membership as a whole. I'd like to see a democratic solution instead of a decision made by the leaders. Popsicles? I can haz? @Chris: Good point, but I’m not sure the leadership of the IAWTV should decide their position… I have more faith in the membership as a whole. I’d like to see a democratic solution instead of a decision made by the leaders.

Popsicles? I can haz?

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